that a supreme court justice there, clinton and mr. sheen -- obama administration in former clinton officials there. then he themselves brag about access to the white house and the white house ideologues certainly build that out. certainly he's much more than any of the mainstream jewish organizations for any israeli business and political organizations. it's just very much a cold peace between israel and the united states in the balmy airs. >> host: tell us how you understand leadership given relations with netanyahu and mr. expectations are for the weeks and months ahead. >> guest: first of all, he really miscalculated but a determined leader netanyahu is. he was summoned, his older brother dies rescuing hostages. he himself, benjamin netanyahu was rescued, so he's been a commando. he is the son of one of the most committed zionist scholars, well-regarded scholars, someone who in his tradition, history is personally brave any ideas you might be intimidated by the office of the presidency of the united states is simply silly and someo